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Frankto Shinobigami
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:58 pm Post subject: Bonus Chakra (Poll Closed?86% in favor) |
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With the new bloodline system almost fully implemented, there comes the eternal debate: how to make the Chakra Pool better without using a level progression.
How, indeed? Bonus Chakra. Without making the chakra pool progression linear, I can instead add bonus chakra to advanced and prestige classes. Like so, for example.
Bonus Chakra: The Elementalist gains bonus chakra every level he takes in this class. The bonus chakra gained does not stack, simply use the value matching the Elementalist's level in the class on the table below.
Code: | Level Bonus Chakra
1st 1
2nd 3
3rd 4
4th 6
5th 7
6th 9
7th 10 |
Note that not all classes would get a bonus chakra progression, only where it is most relevant. _________________ "It's like making a cake, but instead of a cake it's a game and instead of frosting I have no life."
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Athildur Sexually progressive Valkyrie
Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 3197 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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Aye, this sounds like a fair thing.
Especially for the classes that require more chakra to do their work, the Hit Dice are generally on the lower side, and the Con score is generally of a bit less interest, so then you have a bit lower chakra, with less hp to convert (or converting havign a greater impact on your overall health).
So this bonus chakra should even out the effectiveness of some classes a little. _________________ Oy, this is going to be troublesome *sigh* |
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Keldon_Draconian Grandmaster
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 1251 Location: Hidden Sand
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Hm... I don't know, i might prefer the simple way. It would be a lot easier to calculate CP when creating NPCs (A GM usually creates a dozen or more per game session/mission), IMHO. Because of that, i'll be voting for "no", for now.
EDIT:
Now, reading more carefully, i might be misunderstanding something:
- Is this bonus chakra in addition to the normal progression or in replacement to it?
- Would the Con/Wis score be relevant to this progression?
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Frankto Shinobigami
Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 7372 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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It's in addition, and no, ability scores would have no effects whatsoever on the new chakra bonus. _________________ "It's like making a cake, but instead of a cake it's a game and instead of frosting I have no life."
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kp91 PM Frankto for a Special Title
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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I thought someone had suggested by Class and you had said no. This might finally give a ninjutsu user more chakra than a Taijutsu user. But I don't like completely taking out ability scores factoring in. I'm going to say no. |
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Frankto Shinobigami
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Grah, you guys don't get it at all, do you?
The ability scores WOULD NOT AFFECT THE BONUS CHAKRA, but the STANDARD CHAKRA PROGRESSION would still be in effect.
Skies above, people. Read the post. This isn't going by Basic class. Like I said, this is ADVANCED CLASS and PRESTIGE CLASS only.
This is a class ability. An added benefit for taking a Caster-oriented class. _________________ "It's like making a cake, but instead of a cake it's a game and instead of frosting I have no life."
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Harmless Penguin Chuunin
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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I get what Frankto's trying to say: think of the Bonus Chakra like some classes getting the Improved Chakra Pool feat in addition to their normal Chakra gain, only it scales with the class level progression. I agree with this, as some classes definitely use more Chakra than others and the ones that use the most Chakra also tend to be the ones that are also the least effective when not using it. What's a summoner going to do without Chakra compared to a Ninja Scout for example. |
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kp91 PM Frankto for a Special Title
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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So before or without getting advanced classes, how would you calculate chakra if you do not use ability scores? Chakra = Level + 1? |
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Athildur Sexually progressive Valkyrie
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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*sigh*
Chakra progression is as normal. (Con +1) * (Level + 1).
Except some classes get bonus chakra on top of this. _________________ Oy, this is going to be troublesome *sigh* |
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Harmless Penguin Chuunin
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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Edit: nm, Athil beat me to it =P |
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Keldon_Draconian Grandmaster
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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It seems that i misunderstood the idea completely
So, reconsidering... I think that could be a fine idea. I can easily see Summoners, Genjutsu Adepts and Elementalists working well with the bonus chakra, but i'd suggest you to not adding too much chakra to Medical Specialists (They usually have a high wisdom + will over flesh, using a single ability score to chakra control and chakra). |
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kp91 PM Frankto for a Special Title
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, I get it now. Change one vote of no to yes when considering. |
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Athildur Sexually progressive Valkyrie
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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Keldon: could be my mistake here, but aren't medical jutsu ninjutsu? Something with Iryou ninjutsu?
>.>
I could be wrong. _________________ Oy, this is going to be troublesome *sigh* |
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Elon Shinobigami
Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 1198 Location: Spain
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:52 am Post subject: |
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I think it's fair enough. But the total bonus should be carefully selected. _________________ Oden! Guide our ships, our axes, spears and swords! Guide us through storms that whip and in brutal war!
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DotonLizard Banned or Something Like It
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, because now my elementalist can afford to go ninjutsu crazy. _________________ I was banned for being an insensitive dick and generally an idiot. |
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Frankto Shinobigami
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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It'll be implemented in the next update. _________________ "It's like making a cake, but instead of a cake it's a game and instead of frosting I have no life."
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