Suggestion for the rules

Azathoth · Genin Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 9

Hello, long time reader, and player here, who has some concerns about the system.

Currently, the system is a massive aglamation of rules slapped upon rules, which leads to long times spent upon creating characters, or even flipping from move to move.

In order to slim down the massive beast that is Frankto's rules, might we be able to transfer the system into a somewhat more streamligned system, like Mutants & Masterminds, or even Fourth Edition? Thusly, we could get more frequent updates from Frankto, since he'd only be releasing feats, or templates since M&M has no classes, and Fourth Edition can easily slim down the entirety of it.
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sebsmith · Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:58 pm Post subject:

Except that he'd have to learn a new system, and convert everything over to it, as would the rest of us. I'm betting this wouldn't happen.

Azathoth · Genin Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 9

The point is, that you wouldn't have to transfer that much over, since you could simplify the system down extremely, or have the players do some of the work, such as making the Jutsu in M&M.

Kishimoto obviously doesn't follow rules when he writes, why should this game be confined into a game that doesn't portray anything correctly, like d20?
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Athildur · Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:05 am Post subject:

I think there are very slim chances indeed of this happening.

For one, a lot of effort has been put into a system that I think the majority of players here likes.

For another, a lot of effort has been placed in making all these rules in conjunction with the system. To change that now would be madness.

While I am a fan of 4e, the simple fact is that almost every number and class you have now would completely be useless in 4e. The numbers there are very different, the system of classes works in entirely new ways and the system of powers/exploits/spells is also not what we are used to in NarutoD20.

To keep the current feel, you would have to replace a lot of the 4e rules, and at that point you might as well just stay where we are at the rules based on ModernD20.
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kp91 · Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:52 am Post subject:

Azathoth · Genin Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 9

kp91 · Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:25 am Post subject:

Frankto · Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:20 am Post subject:

The reason I don't accept usermade stuff is because it mostly suck sweaty donkey balls, or is absolutely and completely unreasonable, like someone suggesting I rewrite the system I spent years adding to and convert it into something that it's not.

Go suck on a lemon. I don't care if you think it sucks ass; I'm not making you play the game.

And KP is right. I might have at the start. But then people started nagging incessantly about something or something else, most of which was archived or outright deleted.

And the reason you're not getting "frequent updates from Frankto" is because the manga sucks, the anime sucks, the games are only fun when you want to dick around and kick some ass, the fandom is retarded and the fanfics are wholly uninspiring/uninspired these days.

When I get to work, it feels like I'm beating a dead horse, which makes me amazed that I'm even still doing this.
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Felix_Zyphros · Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:18 am Post subject:

Could always look at the non-crappy manga... Like FMA
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Jensik · Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:47 pm Post subject:

kp91 · Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:34 pm Post subject:

Felix_Zyphros · Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:39 pm Post subject:

Athildur · Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:09 pm Post subject:

Felix_Zyphros · Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:21 pm Post subject:

There Bleach with rules for spirits, FMA with rules for alchemy, D-Gray Man with rules for 'bonded items', and One Piece (not the anime) with rules for fruit-granted abilities (maybe a bloodline for each fruit).

There's so much stuff out there besides Naruto.
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Ryuugan · Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:09 am Post subject:

I would try adapting various anime into the system. Technically alot of the abilities in anime such as magic, psychics, can all be done using the current Nd20 system.

Even if the current fandom is a POS, i still find the world itself interesting, and how other anime can be used in this system.

Take Negima for instance. Chakra takes the place of mana, use the feat Will over Flesh, Ninjutsu becomes Mahou, add in some magic components (incantations, gestures, what have you) and now you have a Negima system. I honestly find the narutod20 system to be the best, if only for the fact of how easily you can adapt to other genre's.
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Felix_Zyphros · Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:19 am Post subject:

That's what I meant. Change some fluff here, switch out handsigns for a verbal component, and now you have spells/kidou instead of jutsu.

It's not like we are talking about a complete system overhaul like converting 3.5 to MnM. Instead, it''s a mere change of fluff and maybe some extra crunch.
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I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.
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kp91 · Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:06 pm Post subject:

Felix_Zyphros · Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:13 pm Post subject:

Meh, nothings perfect.
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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.
? Bene Gesserit Litany Against Fear, Dune

Shun · Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:36 am Post subject:

actually bows work awesomely I have two players that control a total of 3-4 archers, the range is great and the dmg is near up to par with a taijutsu specialist if you take the weapon specialist.

edit: no specific bow really, but I wanna say the more successful ones give you the strength bonus to dmg. Confused

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kp91 · Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:52 am Post subject:

Frankto · Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject:

Bows are "loaded" as part of the firing process. l2read, nub.
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Felix_Zyphros · Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:31 pm Post subject:

Shun · Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:50 pm Post subject:

I know the whole bow fire rate has been done to hell on these boards T_T;
I don't see how people keep thinking any different.
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