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Infinitus
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see it correctly that the removal of perform dcs is in this update, and the required skill ranks / total skill modifier is just as described in the relevant topic?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's not in the update file, then it isn't in the update yet.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will it be included in this update?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might. It might not.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For comparison, Blinkstrike is a prestige class while Ninja Scout is an advanced one.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suggestions, for the Samurei class:

- To enter the class, someone should need Proficiency in Medium Armor (at least) and Archaic or Exotic Weapons

- The class could grant the heavy armor proficiency. Also, a class ability that lessens the penalties for using heavy armor (higher dex bonus, less armor penalty, faster movement, etc) would represent well their superior proficiency. They don't need to sneak in, so they focus on heavy armor a lot more than shinobi.

- Most of them seemed to use two weapons. So, two weapon fighting could be a requisite or a bonus feat, and they could get a bonus when fighting with two weapons. Perhaps their "free" two weapon fighting ability (or bonus to said ability) could only be used with their daisho?

- When using bladed weapons, a class ability (or technique) could grant them an extra lenght to their weapons, by using chakra. More threat range? Catching the targets flat-footed on the first strike? More damage? I don't know.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keldon_Draconian wrote:
- Most of them seemed to use two weapons. So, two weapon fighting could be a requisite or a bonus feat, and they could get a bonus when fighting with two weapons. Perhaps their "free" two weapon fighting ability (or bonus to said ability) could only be used with their daisho?


As far as I know, samurai did indeed carry two blades. They did not, however, dual wield.
If I recall correctly, they prefer to wield katana with two hands. The wakizashi is a weapon drawn when the katana is unusable or if the samurai has been disarmed from it.
It is also used to perform seppuku, though I doubt your character's going to try that out in the middle of a battle :p.

I might be dead wrong on all of it, but hey, I'm no expert. I'm just arrogant enough to think I know it all Razz.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The samurai class does require armor proficiency AND a specific weapon proficiency, and is similar to the Ranger in that it allows the selection of a specific style (kenjutsu, iaijutsu, soujutsu or kyujutsu).

I haven't worked out the specifics yet. If anyone knows what mace- or hammer-wielding warriors called their arts, let me know.

EDIT: After much research, I've concluded that it doesn't exist. So I'll go with the direct translation of Tsuijutsu (槌術)
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Care to improve wings of the undying, because currently, the Bodyguard (org.) is more powerful, imho.

Oh and what about a Shinobi Negotiator?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be what the genjutsu specialist is for Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shinobi Negociator can't be terribly useful. As for Wings of the Undying, well, not every class can be a winner.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
As far as I know, samurai did indeed carry two blades. They did not, however, dual wield.
If I recall correctly, they prefer to wield katana with two hands. The wakizashi is a weapon drawn when the katana is unusable or if the samurai has been disarmed from it.
It is also used to perform seppuku, though I doubt your character's going to try that out in the middle of a battle :p.


You are right about historical Samurai. But Samurai in Naruto's world seem to dual wield most of the time:

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/460/12/
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone else have heard about Miyamoto Musashi? The Book Of Five Rings anyone?

Though I don't know if there were more samurai like him, I believe he did not had any school to pass his arts, only the book.

But I'm sure Frankto wouldn't cap the two wielding option Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samurai from the Iron Country can be kenjutsu-path, dual chisa-gatana wielding dudes if they want. I'm not going to make them into something they don't want to be.

But I'm certainly not going to force everyone down that path.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know I fell really dumb for this, but where can I download this update, I tried the main page, but it gave me the last update instead.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's two doors down from La-La Land.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to close the Gate of Oblivion first. Then you shall meet the Update.

Err, it's still not uploaded, so you can't download it. Have you forgotten how this works? Frankto will start a new update thread as soon as he uploads the new main file version.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't mind seeing some type of guide to starting characters above level 1, possibly with a formula for Techniques/Level, Wealth/Level, etc.

I usually base the number of techniques a person starts with off of the requirements for Genin, Chuunin, and Jounin, but I really wouldn't mind having a more concrete way of doing it.

Just a suggestion though.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I go with 2d4+intelligence modifier (normal camaigns though) for techniques, and 3+(.5xlevel) for wealth modifier. This isn't an always thing, but it's what I use in general for high level characters.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lots of changes! Armor and Weapon seals are now only one feat, new level requirements to craft seals (most of them equal to the level yo ucould take the feats at).

Puppet components changes... skill changes too. Crafting items now takes a lot less times, and in some cases less or no chakra. I added a new type of exploding tag too, called firecracker. Sakura used them in the first movie, they're the tiny exploding tags.

Shinobi Drugs! Wow, the entire section was revamped. Drug descriptions now have their own equipment section, plus purchase DC and restriction. And there's two new types of drugs, +1 and +5. And drugs to increase Nin and Taijutsu DCs too, like Genjutsu.

I think that's all I did this evening. Maybe some other, more minor stuff. OH! Did you see my avatar? It's freaking awesome, I know. I figured I needed a new one. So I worked hard for hours to find this one! (READ: I whipped it up in 30 seconds).


Well, that's it. Enjoy.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who let Frankto near the Jolt?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jolt, more like Brawndo: The thirst Mutilator.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it has electrolytes.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was sitting here with my friends at my house, and everyone saw your new avatar and was amazed. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just don't let the NAACP see your avatar....
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, guys. I like it too, but not as much as I like BRAWNDO. It's like riding a 300-feet tall pony covered in chainsaws!

Man, I haven't watched those in forever.



GRRRRRR!

Heh
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great movie, comes on pretty often. From one of our own (texas) fine minds of creativity.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How does the saying go again? Ah, yes...



Zing, bitches.
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