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Meta-Chakra Revamp!

 
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Meta-chakra Cost
As is (percentage)
8%
 8%  [ 1 ]
Rank-based (e.g. 1 every 2 ranks or more)
16%
 16%  [ 2 ]
Static (e.g. increases by 4)
8%
 8%  [ 1 ]
Both (e.g. cost increases by 3 plus 1 every 2 ranks)
66%
 66%  [ 8 ]
Total Votes : 12

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Frankto
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:27 pm    Post subject: Meta-Chakra Revamp! Reply with quote

I'm about to revamp the way meta-chakra cost is handled. Increasing the cost by a set percentage at first was fine, but then I notice how much it screws everyone over with an level 20 empowered rank 14 technique costing 53 chakra, and that just isn't cool.

So I thought I'd ask you guys what you think. First, about meta-chakra cost. Should it be static, based on ranks, or both? Personally my personal choice rests on "both" where some meta-chakra increase by rank (like empower), some are static (say extend and enlarge) and some are both (like maximize).

Second, I thought I'd ask about meta-chakra charges. Since I can't make two polls, to the caster types out there: is it enough? Is it too much? Let me know!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think the charges for meta-chakra feats are fine the way they are. there doesnt seem to be a problem in how many times a character can use them and what-not.
definately change how they work though. it may be a bit more complicated if it isnt a static formula, but it will certainly be more precise and accurate. therefore, better.
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Mizuno Kaitsu
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the idea of it increasing by Rank, but I would also like to see; perhaps, where the casting time of the technique is increased if the technique is further empowered via the technique's options.
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Infinitus
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted for static. not because it is the right thing, but because it is the simplest thing (I actually don't like it).

Actually I would have voted for none at all. the more powerful ones can cost AP. Apart from games, with regular fights (very difficult and more difficult) and many of them, you probably don't use up your AP every level.

and for the meta-chakra charges, make them encounter powers or something like that, that is one thing less to keep track of. seriously, do you know how I dislike, apart from chakra, hp, reserve, ammunition (I use not much, luckily), AP keeping track of metachakra charges and daily evasive maneuvers? oh I forgot devensive maneuvers, but well I don't think I use them.

maybe a progression or a table like heroic surge or something.


the previous text was exegerated by quite a bit, sorry.
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Frankto
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Using APs is definitely not something I'll ever do for meta-chakra. Also... what? That didn't even make sense. At all.
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NinjaCP
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the gist of what Infinitus was trying to say was that meta-chakra charges could be made a per-encounter thing instead of a per-day thing. I personally would like to have more meta-chakra charges. Can't say how that might impact game balance, though.

Regarding the topic of discussion, "both" has my vote. As you stated in your original post, varying the method of calculating cost increase by feat seems to make the most sense.
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zolniena
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this IS a meta-chakra feat to gain charges.
Infinitus, you or your players dont spend most of their AP? my players blow them on learn checks, and use plenty of them for the +2 bonus they gain. also, i use a house rule for blowing 2 action points to give a re-roll....but anyway, thats off topic.
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SirShadow
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use my AP up every level... I am in no way a hoarder.

Also, I think there isn't really a problem with metachakra charges the way they are now. Charges are useful so for balance, you don't want too many.
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