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mjorkk Chuunin
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:03 pm Post subject: Puppet BAB |
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I've been trying to find the section of the mainfile that tells you how to calculate an animated puppet's BAB. The puppetry ability from the puppeteer advanced class says to refer to "puppet combat." There is no "puppet combat" section. I read through the puppets section of the ninja tools chapter, and that also has nothing on puppet BAB. It seems that RAW, they don't have a BAB, just s strength and size bonus, which would make them essentially unable to hit anything. What is the intention of the rules Frankito? |
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mjorkk Chuunin
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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I just found this "A puppet's attack bonus is determined as follow: 1d20 + puppet's attack bonus + size modifier + Strength score + miscellaneous bonus (such as feats, mastercraft components or special abilities)."
... is it MEANT to be A puppet's attack bonus is determined as follow: 1d20 + puppeteer's attack bonus + size modifier + Strength score + miscellaneous bonus (such as feats, mastercraft components or special abilities).? |
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Dairius_Chi Situationally Useful
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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A puppet's BAB is that of a construct of equal HD, that is to say: 3/4th their HD.
There is in fact a puppet combat section, read through the entire section for puppets in ninja tools, it is before you reach human/animal puppets. |
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mjorkk Chuunin
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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there is a PuppetEER combat section, and I assumed something like the construct thing, but I can't find where it directly says that.
The mainfile is really long, and it's often hard to find a particular section because the index has nothing but XX for page number (understandable because it isn't profesionally made, and is constantly changing) so I usually use the search function on my PDF to try and find the rules I need. |
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NinjaCP Master of Space and Time
Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 1134 Location: Detroit, Michigan
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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As Constructs puppets have a 3/4 Base Attack Bonus (meaning BAB = HD*0.75, rounded down). You can find the appropriate table in the Crature Types section of the d20 Modern System Reference Document
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Dairius_Chi Situationally Useful
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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Well I can't seem to find it in that section anymor, not sure why/when it would have been moved...maybe it's in the new puppetry section for the updated puppeteer.
Keep in mind when an update is made that has its info spread in several areas, such as puppets or moujuu aishou, there are more chances for error.
Puppet BAB: is 3/4th the puppet's HD, that is a fact. |
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mjorkk Chuunin
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Oh yeah, like I said, it's totally understandable that something like this could be overlooked, I'm just bringing it up before the next update. |
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Frankto Shinobigami
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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And it isn't. I'm not sure why you'd expect to find this anywhere but in the puppeteer combat section.
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