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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:32 pm    Post subject: About Pathfinder... Reply with quote

I'm looking for someone with access to the Pathfinder Core Rulebook to answer a simple question.

I'd appreciate it if you could skip to the Skills section and tell me what it says under:

Bluff (Cha)
<descriptive text I'm looking for>


I'm not interested in what the SRD website says it says, but what's in the actual book.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the Core Rulebook for Pathfinder. It's not indented the same in the book but I think I typed it word for word below.

Bluff (Cha)
You know how to tell a lie.
Check: Bluff is an opposed skill check against your opponent's Sense Motive skill. If you use Bluff to fool someone, with a successful check you convince your opponent that what you are saying is true. Bluff checks are modified depending on the believability of the lie. The following modifiers are applied to the roll of the creature attempting to tell the lie. Note that some lies are so improbable that it is impossible to convince anyone that they are true (subject to GM discretion).

[Sorry, I don't know how to post the following as a table on the boards.]

Circumstances Bluff Modifier
The target wants to believe you +5
The lie is believable +0
The lie is unlikely -5
The lie is far-fetched -10
The lie is impossible -20
The target is drunk or impaired +5
You possess convincing proof up to +10

Feint: You can use bluff to feint in combat, causing your opponent to be denied his dexterity bonus to his AC against your next attack. The DC of this check is equal to 10 + your opponent's base attack bonus + your opponent's Wisdom modifier. If your opponent is trained in Sense Motive, the DC is instead equal to 10 + your opponent's Sense Motive bonus, if higher. For more information on feinting in combat, see Chapter 8.

Secret Messages: You can use bluff to pass hidden messages along to another character without others understanding your true meaning by using innuendo to cloak your actual message. The DC of the check is 15 for simple messages and 20 for complex messages. If you are successful, the target automatically understands you, assuming you are communicating in a language that it understands. If your check fails by 5 or more, you deliver the wrong message. Other creatures that receive the message can decipher it by succeeding at an opposed Sense Motive check against your Bluff check.

Action: Attempting to deceive someone takes at least 1 round, but can possibly take longer if the lie is elaborate (as determined by the GM on a case-by-case basis).
Feinting in combat is a standard action.
Using Bluff to deliver a secret message takes twice as long as the message would otherwise take to relay.

Try Again: If you fail to deceive someone, further attempts to deceive them are at a -10 penalty and may be impossible (GM's discretion).
You can attempt to feint against someone again if you fail. Secret messages can be relayed again if the first attempt fails.

Special: A spellcaster with a viper familiar gains a +3 bonus on Bluff checks.
If you have the Deceitful feat, you get a bonus on Bluff checks (see Chapter 5).
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obliged. For clarification, this is what I was looking for.
Shogimaru wrote:
Bluff (Cha)
You know how to tell a lie.
Check:

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