Creating a jutsu in game?

lord4571 · Genin Joined: 23 Mar 2016 Posts: 30

so ive been thinking of creating a jutsu in a game im in now but i dont quite understand the creation rules for jutsu. (its more so im looking at them and then the stuff around it and cant seem to connect them how they should be)

so i was woundering if anyone could explain in a straight forward way of how its done.

(i do know that some/most of it would have to be worked out the gm but im just wanting to better understand how to create one and what it would be consider because i see kin and hijutsu being thrown around but unsure if that means when creating one it counts as a kin/hijutsu)

Edit: (didnt want to post another question)
as in other post ive said im an inuzuka (and this is still true) but i want to make sure im doing this right.
for animal companion chakra does it ever increase? (i did not see something in the book that says it does.)

Athildur · Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 8:09 am Post subject:

To create a jutsu, first write it up like jutsu in the book and present it to your GM for approval. Once they approve, you can start learning it as normal.

Note that, as per the Technique chapter (page 260, specifically) creating a technique requires 2 additional successes, and you suffer a -2 penalty to your Learn check. (If you are 5+ levels higher than the technique's rank, you only require 1 additional success)

Don't forget that Rank and Complexity affect the Learn DC of techniques. (It's all listed in the file, a few pages before 260).

Kinjutsu and Hijutsu are only indicators about what level of secrecy they happen to be. They are always tied to a person, clan, area, etc. Hijutsu tend to be secrets for a person, clan or village that is rarely (if ever) taught to outsiders. Kinjutsu are a step higher, and tend to be so powerful or morally reprehensible that teaching such techniques is generally prohibited, and instructions for learning such techniques are locked away in very secure locations.

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I'm fairly certain animal companions are not heroic characters and so would not gain chakra per level, or bonus chakra from Constitution. Even if they did, they couldn't perform techniques. Nin animals might be a different story, but I'm not sure.
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SirShadow · Biffu Aroi Joined: 10 May 2009 Posts: 2654

Everything has Chakra. Heroic Characters just get more. The rules for it are under the section for chakra.

lord4571 · Genin Joined: 23 Mar 2016 Posts: 30

SirShadow · Biffu Aroi Joined: 10 May 2009 Posts: 2654

From the PDF under the chakra rules as I stated:

lord4571 · Genin Joined: 23 Mar 2016 Posts: 30

ok so based on what ur saying dogs work exactly like real characters but divide the result by 2?

or are u saying they have 2 chakra at level 1 and gain 2 more chakra at each level and divide the result by 2?

and u say dont trust the stat blocks for characters (which i know not to but at that point it was the only thing i had to go by) but does that mean not to trust this as well

SirShadow · Biffu Aroi Joined: 10 May 2009 Posts: 2654

I said ignore the character statblocks. Those specifically have not been updated.

As far as chakra goes. Your companion gets 2 Chakra per HD for sure, as a base.

From there, depending on their Con score, they get a certain amount of bonus chakra per level as described under the chakra pool section in the rules. As it says in the rules I posted, this bonus chakra is divided by half and that's what the animal companion gets instead.

lord4571 · Genin Joined: 23 Mar 2016 Posts: 30

[my question put short is the jutsu fang over fang in the book as a jutsu not over fang (1 person) but fang over fang (2 people)]

so i was just about to create the jutsu ive been thinking of in my head but it requires fang over fang. though all my planing on going inuzuka there isnt a way to use fang over fang.

so there is over fang which is for 1 person/animal, but fang over fang isnt for just 1 person.

the jutsu does say "An animal companion may execute this technique only in Juujin Bunshin state (often during a pincer maneuver called Gatsuuga)."

Gatsuuga is fang over fang and actual would have other effects depending on how it is used.
there's it being done as a pincer {---> | <--- }
there's it being done from the same side........................{ ---> | }
.......................................................................{ || }....{ ---> | }
and there's it being done like heaven twin fang { \/ }
.......................................................................{ -- }
the pincer would cause more dmg by being stuck and clashed by both sides. heaven twin fang would cause more dmg and have a bigger knock back (or more dmg against a hard place). the last one would only cause a bigger knock back.

so is there actual a fang over fang or Gatsuuga or do they need to be made? if it is in the book does it allow these variations?

Athildur · Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 1:48 pm Post subject:

Gatsuuga as a technique does not exist as the book seems to assume it is simply a simultaneous Tsuuga (which is in the book) from both the user and their animal.
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lord4571 · Genin Joined: 23 Mar 2016 Posts: 30

"simultaneous Tsuuga (which is in the book) from both the user and their animal"

ok if that's true then how would that work in combat.
rin is me. kenji is dog, enemies are enemies

round x
Rin: goes first and as proper jutsus active to use Tsuuga. it hits and resolves.
enemy 1: trys to hit rin but misses cuz he is awesome
kenji: also uses tsuuga to make Gatsuuga... "simultaneous Tsuuga"?

enemy 1 had his action yet its simultaneous?
thats what doesn't make sense to me for that jutsu at least. if you and your animal roll different turn orders and are not back to back it just isn't going to happen simultaneously.

SirShadow · Biffu Aroi Joined: 10 May 2009 Posts: 2654

You and your animal companion go on the same initiative.

Athildur · Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:21 pm Post subject:

lord4571 · Genin Joined: 23 Mar 2016 Posts: 30

got it talk to dm.

and i have another question about creating a jutsu.

how do you name them in japanese. ive looked at the wiki i looked at the book and i looked at some translates for tsuuga or piercing fang the best one that came close changed piercing fang into sharp fang from english to japanese to english again.

any other translator changed it to something kiba. im just unsure what dialect or form of japanese the book and show are using. even the wiki seems to be using different forms of naming the jutsu from the book itself.

what im trying to name is either heaven's piercing fang or piercing fang of heaven.
it would be fine if something actual said tsuuga when typing in piercing fang but nothing ever did so im unsure if im naming the jutsu right?

Jokerakos · Genin Joined: 08 May 2014 Posts: 16 Location: Greece

you could use the leafninja.com its a great site imo
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Athildur · Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 5:14 am Post subject:

I used to use this one. It contains a decent way to search, but obviously gives you little to no indication of whether the words you choose end up being something japanese people would actually use.

For example, tsuuga, when I reverse search 'piercing fang', seems to be a contraction of 'tsuukan' (piercing through, penetrating) and while I can't find 'ga' to mean fang on its own, searches do return (for example) dokuga 'poison fang' ('doku' being poison). (It's possible that 'ha' (tooth) or 'hanone' (fang) becomes 'ga' when making such a contraction, but I have no idea whether that can happen)
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