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Pasequer
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 Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:37 pm Post subject: Kawarimi with bow |
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I have a technical question about the Kawarimi no Jutsu.
Does using a bow like the Hankyuu allow you to have a free hand to perform seals?
Or we have to perform without no hands free.
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TheTrulyAvaricious
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:44 am Post subject: |
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Greetings,
Bit of a weird one this. On the one hand, bows of any size will require two hands to use correctly - one to hold the bow and the other to pull the string.
On the other hand, the rules do state as follows:
| The Naruto d20 Main File wrote: | Size: Size categories for weapons and other objects are defined differently from the size categories for creatures. The relationship between a weapon’s size and that of its wielder defines whether it can be used one-handed, if it requires two hands, and if it’s a light weapon.
A Medium-size or smaller weapon can be used one-handed or two-handed. A Large weapon requires two hands. |
The next part I would direct you to is the Monkey Grip feat, which reads as follows:
| The Naruto d20 Main File wrote: |
Monkey Grip
You are adept at using abnormally large weapons with ease.
Prerequisite: Str 13, base attack bonus +1
Benefit: This feat grants the character the ability to wield larger weapons with less effort.
A Medium character with this feat is able to wield a Large weapon with one hand, or a Huge weapon with two-hands, although penalties for wielding an improperly-sized weapon are not affected. A Medium weapon is not considered a light weapon for a character with this feat.
The character is also able to take a hand off a two-handed weapon as a free action to perform a technique with half seal components or cast a spell with somatic components.
Normal: You can use a melee weapon one size category larger but with greater effort. A light weapon for a Medium character without this feat is Small or smaller. |
The wording of the Monkey Grip feat to me suggests that you can normally take a hand off to perform a technique with half-seal components for Medium-sized weapons - try as I might I've not been able to find any rule in the Main File outright confirming this.
As the Hankyuu is a Medium-size weapon, for me you should be fine to use techniques with half-seals while holding the bow in one-hand. When you're not firing it would make perfect sense for your character to be able to let go of the string and perform the technqiue - bearing in mind that you do take a -4 circumstance penalty to Perform checks and skill threshold for performing techniques with the half seal (S) component with your off-hand.
If you were trying the same thing with the Daikyuu which is a Large weapon, I'd probably say you needed the Monkey Grip feat to pull this off.
Bit of a long-winded explanation, but I hope this helps.
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TheTrulyAvaricious
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Pasequer
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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I had come to the conclusion that it's a two-handed weapon if the character attacks during the round. Otherwise the player has an available hand off to perform a technique.
It would be the same situation with a Greatbow or a Daikyuu but it would require a monkey grip because it's large weapons.
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Athildur
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| Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Rules-wise, you can take a hand off a Medium sized weapon because it can be wielded one-handed, and temporarily removing a hand isn't really an action.
For two-handed, *normally* the reason you can't is because the weapon is too heavy/cumbersome to be wielded with one hand.
For bows, I would argue that you can freely take one hand off. You don't need two hands to hold a bow. The second hand is just needed to draw and fire the bow. If you're not currently doing that, that hand should be perfectly fine for usage of half-seals.
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