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4play
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 12:41 am    Post subject: Weapon Techniques...? Reply with quote

So you know, I'm not only new to Narutod20, but DnD altogether.

If I ask anything that's too noobish for you, sorry. Gotta learn somewhere.



Anyway, here's my dilemma:

I'm trying to make a character similar to that of Tenten, where I would be a weapon specialist.

I reviewed the pdf file, and found her own character to be..well..somewhat lacking, in comparison to that of the character on the Anime.

I was hoping to find a template for techniques such as her Soshoryu and Tobidogu techniques.

I also understand that I can use summon scrolls to bring out weapons, but I'm at a loss as to understanding how to go about doing so..



I really would like to make these techniques and similar ones, but right now, I'm clueless.


Help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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Fredto
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 1:01 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

First of all, welcome to the boards and that was a great intro.

Second: this is not a D&D conversion but a d20 Modern conversion, you should look up this post and get the MSRD.

Third: Most of the characters are based on the manga version of the story, not the anime (the anime is somewhat lacking entertainetiveness (yep, that's a word) and, even if I didn't read the manga, I understand why Frankto's doing it.

For the rest, I'm not the most qualified person to answer the technical questions. In my opinion, if Tenten's there, her techniques are too, Frankto's a lazy bastard, but if he starts something, he finishes it.
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for the love of god someone come up with ten tens ability... two freakin scrolls of weapon death would rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could come up with something for Tenten's ability, but chance's are, it wouldn't look as cool as people might envision it.
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give me a few clips of the anime in which tenten uses it, and I'll see what I can do. Problem is, it can't be all too powerful...
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There ARE techniques that Ten Ten used, just not like you would think.

Those scrolls she used were summoning scrolls with the weaponry placed inside.

If you carefully check the jutsu lists there are sealing techs for putting items embedded inside summoning scrolls for later calling.
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not... The same thing... What she did was summon up the weaponry AND throw it at her target. It's probably a combo of Kuchiyos (The scroll) and the techniqe that throws weapons at enemies (i think it was some fuuton...)
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Highly doubt it, as Blade said its all pretty much in there.. although her attack use din the chuunin exam (which is u stated) would be a special jutsu that required those however.. If I recall though, she just kind of slung the scrolls around in mid air... sorry if I don't make sense, it's early in the morning although I prolly never do anyways Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey thanks for the reply guys. I was trying to upload a particular clip from the show that demonstrates one of the moves, but I had problems with my movie editor...anyway, I found the next best thing: a detailed description of the move:


Soushouryu (Rising Twin Dragons):
This is Tenten's ultimate attack. It consists of many different kinds of weapons being created by scrolls, and then thrown to the enemy. First, Tenten takes out her 2 scrolls. She then plants them in the ground, one parallel to the other, and Tenten located in the center. After a series of handseals, Tenten crosses her hands and a large volume of smoke appears.

Then, the two scrolls transform into beams of smoke that come upwards in shapes of dragons, and they start twisting within each other. Once really high, they become scrolls, and Tenten jumps up high in an instance, and by using Chakra, she places her hands on top of symbols, creating weapons.

Every symbol is one weapon, and by using all of the symbols in a scroll, many weapons are created, and are thrown at once. If the enemy manages to dodge, there are many surprises for him/her. The weapons have strings tied to them, which Tenten can use to raise them all up, and throw them once more, surprising the opponent.

Tenten's biggest fear would be a wind or sound opponent who can use elements to his advantage. That would be due to the fact that the enemy can use nature to overthrow the weapons and make them stray out of target. Against that kind of opponent, Tenten's battle is probably lost.
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many times do I need to say this?

Not

Going

To

Happen.

For the Nth time, I will NOT do Soushouryuu.
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EDIT: Posted in wrong thread. Sorry. ^_^;
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankto wrote:
How many times do I need to say this?

Not

Going

To

Happen.

For the Nth time, I will NOT do Soushouryuu.




First, let me say that there is absolutely no way I could've known that you have said this already X amount of times. There's a lot of pages in the forums, and there's enough to read already in the Narutod20 Book.

Perhaps if you had a sticky thread of a 'Not Going to Happen' List, I wouldn't have asked the question.





Secondly, I don't really need or want to have those techniques specifically, but is there any way to incorporate the ideas of that technique on a much smaller scale? Surely the idea CAN be worked into something that's feasible and not ridiculously overpowered....=/
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Athildur
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hrm, well, the technique needn't be overpowered per say...

If you count the number of weapons thrown...yes, it is a crapload. BUT, Tenten is one of the few who is able to use it because it requries immense accuracy. Let's face it, throwing 50+ weapons in a matter of seconds is one way to hit an enemy, but that's basically because you throw 50, not because you're so damn good at aiming your stuff.

And, when throwing that many weapons in such a short time, there is likely no strength bonus added. Add to that the fact that a lot of weapons aren't meant to be thrown in the first place and will thus hardly be as effective as they would be in melee...

And, last but not least, if you're going to throw 50 weapons, that means that you will need to have bought 50 weapons, in addition to normal weaponry you use, and you need to have sealed those 50 weapons. That costs a lot of wealth, a lot of time and a lot of chakra. And scrolls are vulnerable.

These are just a few pointers for those making a fan-based version to be used in costum campaigns. I'll see if I can come up with something feasible.
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4play wrote:

Secondly, I don't really need or want to have those techniques specifically, but is there any way to incorporate the ideas of that technique on a much smaller scale? Surely the idea CAN be worked into something that's feasible and not ridiculously overpowered....=/



The mechanics are already THERE for this to be worked in on a smaller, not so overpowered scale. All you have to do is get a few summoning scrolls and seal your weapon(s) of choice into said scrolls.
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He meant an actual 'technique', not just grabbing a weapon. Actually, Tenten shows a lesser form of the technique earlier, by using just a single scroll while leapnig over her enemy, I believe.

Technique is a big word, mind you...
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Athildur wrote:
He meant an actual 'technique', not just grabbing a weapon. Actually, Tenten shows a lesser form of the technique earlier, by using just a single scroll while leapnig over her enemy, I believe.

Technique is a big word, mind you...




Exactly what I mean. I know I can stuff weapons into a scroll, but to use those stuffed weapons in a scroll into a workable technique?

This is what I'm not too sure about.

If any of you guys can come up with a viable solution that could work out for whatever Rank of technique...I'd appreciate it.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

4play wrote:
Athildur wrote:
He meant an actual 'technique', not just grabbing a weapon. Actually, Tenten shows a lesser form of the technique earlier, by using just a single scroll while leapnig over her enemy, I believe.

Technique is a big word, mind you...




Exactly what I mean. I know I can stuff weapons into a scroll, but to use those stuffed weapons in a scroll into a workable technique?

This is what I'm not too sure about.

If any of you guys can come up with a viable solution that could work out for whatever Rank of technique...I'd appreciate it.


key phrase for yah Wink

"talk to your GM".

If you talk to your GM he may let you create a tech for your character in the campaign you are running with him.

If it works out nicely, you could keep it for yourself and run it by future GM's to see if they'll allow it later as well.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

4play wrote:
Secondly, I don't really need or want to have those techniques specifically, but is there any way to incorporate the ideas of that technique on a much smaller scale? Surely the idea CAN be worked into something that's feasible and not ridiculously overpowered....=/


Possible, I'll see what I can do whenever I get in a writing mood.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weapon Sealing + Soushuuha (Advanced Blade Manipulation)... Figure out something...
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