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Infinitus Holiday Ninja
Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 1976
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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fine :/ i just thought why could a 12 years-old genin take equal damage to an about 22 years-old jounin before it is a 'massive blow'
and on the tiger entry it reads: Nd20 Rulebook wrote: | [...], the Beastmaster may make take a full-attack action[...] |
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Frankto Shinobigami
Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 7372 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you.
As for the age, that is irrelevant. The system of "when the character becomes 15 years old [...]" is flawed and inconsistent. _________________ "It's like making a cake, but instead of a cake it's a game and instead of frosting I have no life."
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Keldon_Draconian Grandmaster
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 1251 Location: Hidden Sand
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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There is a feat called Improved Damage Threshold, or something like that, on D20M. Perhaps you could incorporate that as a bonus feat in your own campaign to Chuunin/Jounin characters. |
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Akashi Shinario Genin
Joined: 23 Jun 2007 Posts: 9
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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will the new class and the new feat be in this next update? I hope so, because my group is excited to have previewed them and hope they become offical _________________ I serve the Hokage and the Anbu |
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Frankto Shinobigami
Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 7372 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:08 am Post subject: |
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All the stuff in there are for the next update. And there are three new classes. _________________ "It's like making a cake, but instead of a cake it's a game and instead of frosting I have no life."
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Infinitus Holiday Ninja
Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 1976
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:27 am Post subject: |
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aye, i made up a feat for the beastmaster. what do you think of it?
Pure Instinct (feat)
Your instincts are unnaturally sharp and you have an insight on danger.
Prerequisite: Beastmaster Level 1.
Benefit: You add your Wisdom modifier to initiative checks.
EDIT: and what about a new use for Chakra Control: Break Illusion. DC 20+Technique Rank. _________________
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Hitsen Kage
Joined: 03 May 2007 Posts: 282 Location: I dont know. I'm lost. T_T
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:23 am Post subject: |
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Lord_Infinitus wrote: | aye, i made up a feat for the beastmaster. what do you think of it?
Pure Instinct (feat)
Your instincts are unnaturally sharp and you have an insight on danger.
Prerequisite: Beastmaster Level 1.
Benefit: You add your Wisdom modifier to initiative checks.
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Thats a cool idea. I assume thats stacks with Dex, correct? _________________
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hastur Grandmaster
Joined: 02 Feb 2005 Posts: 525
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Lord_Infinitus wrote: | a new use for Chakra Control: Break Illusion. DC 20+Technique Rank. |
*cough* It's called Kai (Releasy). In techniques section. _________________ Three are the paths of soul:
One out - roam across the plain,
One back - dwell with the tribe and tent,
One in - turn an enemy's hate.
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Infinitus Holiday Ninja
Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 1976
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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yeah i know, but you can see, Naruto doesn't know Kai, but he can get rid of genjutsus anyways. _________________
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Hitsen Kage
Joined: 03 May 2007 Posts: 282 Location: I dont know. I'm lost. T_T
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Thats because he has this thing called a kyuubi in him. You may have heard of it. It's this giant, demon 9 tailed fox. Yeah, and he can tap into it.
Just messing with you.
Well, kind of. Since for it to work in the way Naruto does it, you would have to have an Epic Chakra, I think. _________________
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Infinitus Holiday Ninja
Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 1976
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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no, i think jiraiyas explanations were quite easy to understand: a genjutsu is an advanced ninjutsu that controls the chakra flow in your head, or similar
he told naruto to stop that flow. redirecting a forced chakra stream might be more difficult than kai, but i think it is still possible _________________
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Athildur Sexually progressive Valkyrie
Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 3197 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, I think that there's a good difference between what Naruto does and what Kai does.
Like said, Kai stops the flow of chakra for a moment, allowing one to be released from a genjutsu.
What naruto does is basically just overwhelm the chakra with his own, flushing it out, so to speak. For most common ninja that's not very useful because it costs a lot of chakra. But naruto has a rather lot of that. So that's why he can use it. If he was able to learn Kai, he probably would have been taught it. But it might be too complicated for him...I dunno. Don't really care, either, tbh. _________________ Oy, this is going to be troublesome *sigh* |
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Keldon_Draconian Grandmaster
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 1251 Location: Hidden Sand
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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Hm...
Athildur is probably right.
I would suggest a new use for chakra control skill: by beating a high DC (Perhaps 20 or 25+ Genjutsu's level) the user may dispel a genjutsu affecting him or a touched character (Like what Sakura and Chiyo did) by spending X points of chakra per technique rank. You can spend extra chakra to increase your chances of success. For each extra Y points of chakra spent you gain +1 on the check. Using chakra control on this manner is a full-round action that provokes attacks of opportunity. Perhaps it could require a feat, or a certain level/ECL/Ranks in CC. |
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Infinitus Holiday Ninja
Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 1976
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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Then there are two people suggesting a genjutsu counter by chakra control only
Keldon: And you suggest a player calculating this all alone in an instant?
There are people who like simple rules in the game, as they can overview them.
Just the DC (20/25) and the decrease. As the DC is high enough, it requires naturally by DC a Chakra Control Skill of about 16 to be an easy success, that means: you need 11 (wis +2) levels to do it efficiently on rank six techniques with a 50% success chance. and we all know that naruto had a poor chakra control and still has because of his fox. So 20 seems about right, as he used some chakra 25 might be even better :/
and yeah, that is a nice addition the chakra injection, i forgot it
Maybe a suggestion for a feat: you can be trained in that use, and can do it as a reaction, but you have to drop your move action afterwards.
REQUEST: I want prestige classes, in the chapter Advanced and Prestige classes are only advanced classes! Maybe you should rename the chapter, or make those classes that only gain 6+... AP to prestige classes. _________________
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Keldon_Draconian Grandmaster
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 1251 Location: Hidden Sand
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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Keldon: And you suggest a player calculating this all alone in an instant?
There are people who like simple rules in the game, as they can overview them.
Just the DC (20/25) and the decrease. As the DC is high enough, it requires naturally by DC a Chakra Control Skill of about 16 to be an easy success, that means: you need 11 (wis +2) levels to do it efficiently on rank six techniques with a 50% success chance. and we all know that naruto had a poor chakra control and still has because of his fox. So 20 seems about right, as he used some chakra 25 might be even better :/ |
The calculation is not difficult, IMHO. Base DC + Technique's Rank. The player only choses to spend extra chakra or not, and if he does, how much chakra.
And something i also think, is that if the test is too easy, it will make Genjutsu users useless. Why do a Genjutsu if anyone would have a good chance to defeat it AFTER failing the saving throw? So there is a good reason for high DC.
Naruto had a poor chakra control skill. That's the reason for what i suggested a bonus on the test by spending more chakra.
Another suggestion would be allowing any person with X ranks in chakra control to perform this, but without a special feat they would receive a certain penalty in doing so.
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And i think Elementalists, Ninja Operation Counter, Shades, and all those classes you need at least 6 levels are prestige, aren't they? |
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kp91 PM Frankto for a Special Title
Joined: 09 Aug 2006 Posts: 3076
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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What's the difference between Advanced and Prestige? I always assumed it was just the name difference between d20 Modern and DnD. |
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Infinitus Holiday Ninja
Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 1976
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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apart from the name,
basic classes: base... (5 + 1/2 CL AP)
advanced classes: Specialized (6 + 1/2 CL AP)
Prestige Classes: Ultra Specialized (7 + 1/2 CL AP) _________________
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Keldon_Draconian Grandmaster
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 1251 Location: Hidden Sand
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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And Advanced class are usually avaliable on levels 3-4, while prestige can only be taken on higher levels. |
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Athildur Sexually progressive Valkyrie
Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 3197 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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Prestige are also generally 5-level, whereas advanced classes have 10. The bigger exception being Elementalist, which has 7 levels. _________________ Oy, this is going to be troublesome *sigh* |
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Keldon_Draconian Grandmaster
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 1251 Location: Hidden Sand
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Prestige are also generally 5-level, whereas advanced classes have 10. The bigger exception being Elementalist, which has 7 levels. |
Indeed. Another example would also be the Summoner now. |
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Frankto Shinobigami
Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 7372 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:57 am Post subject: |
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My connection is being an absolute bitch. It's not unconceivable that I go AWOL for a few days because my modem is slowly dying on me. _________________ "It's like making a cake, but instead of a cake it's a game and instead of frosting I have no life."
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Fredto Mr. Grumpy
Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 297 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:21 am Post subject: ... |
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I think you should consider buying a defibrillator, just in case.
Or I can bring it back to life, with me being a Demi-God and all. _________________ You just can't get rid of me. |
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Archangel Super Pervert
Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 616 Location: Vinland
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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Pretty sure demigods don't have the power to bring people and whatnot back to life in legend. They do, however, have an edge on the journey to bring someone back, being part god and all. _________________ "I'm no ordinary pervert... I'm a SUPER PERVERT!!!"
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Keldon_Draconian Grandmaster
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 1251 Location: Hidden Sand
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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Modem's soul is hanging around in hell with Jack Sparrow's after being eaten by that thing. |
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Infinitus Holiday Ninja
Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 1976
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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yeah! A ninja could have used a medical stabilization seal, but a pirate _________________
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Archangel Super Pervert
Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 616 Location: Vinland
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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A Pirate would've failed his Heal check to stabilize. Historically, they were uneducated, illiterate, bastard-children of slaves, ex-slave, and whites. Gotta love Caribbean history. _________________ "I'm no ordinary pervert... I'm a SUPER PERVERT!!!"
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Keldon_Draconian Grandmaster
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 1251 Location: Hidden Sand
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Suggestion: some kind of feat that grants a special weapon, like Ancestral Relic (Book of Exalted Deeds).
You can only take the feat on first level, and it requires proficiency with the weapon you chose. It is only a mastercraft (+1)weapon, but you can spend experience to awake certain unique powers (Similar to weapon seals, perhaps) on it as you gain levels. |
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Elon Shinobigami
Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 1198 Location: Spain
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:28 am Post subject: |
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Keldon_Draconian wrote: | Suggestion: some kind of feat that grants a special weapon, like Ancestral Relic (Book of Exalted Deeds).
You can only take the feat on first level, and it requires proficiency with the weapon you chose. It is only a mastercraft (+1)weapon, but you can spend experience to awake certain unique powers (Similar to weapon seals, perhaps) on it as you gain levels. |
Nice way to make a shinigami. _________________ Oden! Guide our ships, our axes, spears and swords! Guide us through storms that whip and in brutal war!
Be the Ultimate Ninja! Play Billy Vs. SNAKEMAN today! |
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DotonLizard Banned or Something Like It
Joined: 20 Jul 2007 Posts: 1055
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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2 things that i want is more info on Village Hidden in the Rock even if its made up because there is like no info there cuz it seems that everyone hates it and more Rock Village bloodlines maybe even give Lizard summons burrow movement |
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Keldon_Draconian Grandmaster
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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Indeed Elon, i realized that just after i posted the suggestion, hehe. |
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