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Bonus Chakra (Poll Closed?86% in favor)

 
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Frankto
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:58 pm    Post subject: Bonus Chakra (Poll Closed?86% in favor) Reply with quote

With the new bloodline system almost fully implemented, there comes the eternal debate: how to make the Chakra Pool better without using a level progression.

How, indeed? Bonus Chakra. Without making the chakra pool progression linear, I can instead add bonus chakra to advanced and prestige classes. Like so, for example.

Bonus Chakra: The Elementalist gains bonus chakra every level he takes in this class. The bonus chakra gained does not stack, simply use the value matching the Elementalist's level in the class on the table below.
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Level     Bonus Chakra
1st            1
2nd            3
3rd            4
4th            6
5th            7
6th            9
7th           10


Note that not all classes would get a bonus chakra progression, only where it is most relevant.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye, this sounds like a fair thing.

Especially for the classes that require more chakra to do their work, the Hit Dice are generally on the lower side, and the Con score is generally of a bit less interest, so then you have a bit lower chakra, with less hp to convert (or converting havign a greater impact on your overall health).
So this bonus chakra should even out the effectiveness of some classes a little.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm... I don't know, i might prefer the simple way. It would be a lot easier to calculate CP when creating NPCs (A GM usually creates a dozen or more per game session/mission), IMHO. Because of that, i'll be voting for "no", for now.

EDIT:

Now, reading more carefully, i might be misunderstanding something:

- Is this bonus chakra in addition to the normal progression or in replacement to it?
- Would the Con/Wis score be relevant to this progression?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's in addition, and no, ability scores would have no effects whatsoever on the new chakra bonus.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought someone had suggested by Class and you had said no. This might finally give a ninjutsu user more chakra than a Taijutsu user. But I don't like completely taking out ability scores factoring in. I'm going to say no.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grah, you guys don't get it at all, do you?

The ability scores WOULD NOT AFFECT THE BONUS CHAKRA, but the STANDARD CHAKRA PROGRESSION would still be in effect.

Skies above, people. Read the post. This isn't going by Basic class. Like I said, this is ADVANCED CLASS and PRESTIGE CLASS only.

This is a class ability. An added benefit for taking a Caster-oriented class.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get what Frankto's trying to say: think of the Bonus Chakra like some classes getting the Improved Chakra Pool feat in addition to their normal Chakra gain, only it scales with the class level progression. I agree with this, as some classes definitely use more Chakra than others and the ones that use the most Chakra also tend to be the ones that are also the least effective when not using it. What's a summoner going to do without Chakra compared to a Ninja Scout for example.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So before or without getting advanced classes, how would you calculate chakra if you do not use ability scores? Chakra = Level + 1?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*sigh*

Chakra progression is as normal. (Con +1) * (Level + 1).

Except some classes get bonus chakra on top of this.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edit: nm, Athil beat me to it =P
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems that i misunderstood the idea completely Embarassed

So, reconsidering... I think that could be a fine idea. I can easily see Summoners, Genjutsu Adepts and Elementalists working well with the bonus chakra, but i'd suggest you to not adding too much chakra to Medical Specialists (They usually have a high wisdom + will over flesh, using a single ability score to chakra control and chakra).
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I get it now. Change one vote of no to yes when considering.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keldon: could be my mistake here, but aren't medical jutsu ninjutsu? Something with Iryou ninjutsu?

>.>

I could be wrong.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's fair enough. But the total bonus should be carefully selected.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, because now my elementalist can afford to go ninjutsu crazy.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'll be implemented in the next update.
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