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Whitefire · First Mate! Arr! Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 435

Frankto do you think you will ever add a rule about combining two different peoples element techniques like a wind technique and fire technique to create a more powerful fire technique?
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Shun · Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:33 pm Post subject:

That's what we like to call a collaboration jutsu aka hijutsu that requires the characters be move on the same initiative and pay a percentage of the cost.
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Keldon_Draconian · Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:03 pm Post subject:

I don't think its very hard.

How i'd do it in 3 simple steps:

1)Create a "Combination" descriptor to show that a particular technique CAN be used in a Combination. Goukakyuu can, Kage Bunshin can't. Usually elemental techniques that affect an area are those covered by the descriptor.

2)Every technique with said descriptor would have the explanation at the end of its description:

Combination:[/b] A [Insert Element Here] Ninjutsu Technique with the combination descriptor can be used to increase the area of [This technique] by [XX%] and damage by [Insert value].

For example, how i'd make Goukakyuu no Jutsu:

Goukakyuu no Jutsu (Grand Fireball Technique)
Rank 3 (C-Class); Learn DC 16 (3 success); Perform DC 16; Time 1 Attack Action; Components: E, H, [i]Comb.; Range Close; Area Cone-Shaped Burst; Duration Instantaneous; Saving Throw Reflex Half; Chakra Cost 4.

The user...

...to a maximum of 10d6 total.

Combination. A Fuuton Ninjutsu technique of Rank 3 or higher with the combination descriptor can be used to increase Goukakyu's range by half and its damage by 4d6 points of Wind Damage.

3) To combine a technique with another character, one must ready an action to use a second technique at the same time as the first willing character. The second technique's normal effect is instead replaced by the combination effect of the first technique.

No complications. The only drawback is having to add that to every technique.

EDIT:

There is already a descriptor with that name Razz

, and probably for a different thing. Well, the idea remains the same anyway.
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horngeek · Genin Joined: 21 Jun 2009 Posts: 12

A possible thing to consider for the next update: potential stats for the other bijū/jinchūriki. I mean, we've been informed of their forms and seen examples of some of their powers, and could probably make at least educated guesses of the abilities of the others. I will go through them in order, but a general patten seems to be that the jinchūriki either gets better control in one particular type of element, or gets the ability to combine two types almost like a Bloodline ability, with the notable exception of the Kyuubi no Kitsune. I'd do it myself, but I'd probably get it wrong.

Nibi no Bakeneko (Monster Cat): Well, this seems to be mainly fire-based. It does have the ability to breathe fire from its mouth. Maybe giving very good abilities with Katon techniques?

Sanbi no Kyodaigame (Giant Turtle): Control of water, it seems from the anime, although it gets a hallucinogenic mist as well... possibly Suiton, with some Genjutsu? Also, its armour seems to be very good.

Yonbi no Saru (Monkey): Well, the major ability shown here is giving the jinchūriki, Roshi, the ability to combine Doton and Katon in Lava Release techs, something you'd otherwise only see in a Bloodline ability.

Gobi no Irukauma (Dolphin-Horse): ... well, the jinchūriki, Han, used steam-based techniques, apparently, but I frankly don't know whether that was due to the Gobi or just his own style. Question

Rokubi no Namekuji (Slug): Again, Question

, but the jinchūriki, Utakata, used soap bubble ninjustu. Combination of Suiton and Fuuton Ninjutsu, maybe?

Nanabi no Kabutomushi (Horned Beetle): I have no idea, but this just calls for Fuuton techs. It's a friggin BEETLE, and its tails are WINGS. That's control of wind right there.

Hachibi no Kyogyū (Giant Ox): Don't know, actually. For some reason, I keep wanting to say Doton techs, but I also get the feeling that that's the Ichibi no Shukaku. Need to see him do more.

So, that's it. My ideas on the seven Tailed Beasts that have not already been done. I would try to make rules for it myself, but I a) do not have time.

b) would probably make it horribly, horribly unbalanced.

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horngeek · Genin Joined: 21 Jun 2009 Posts: 12

Hmmm... good point. Possibly make a tentative set now/for the next update, and adjust it depending on what is seen in the manga?

Elon · Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:35 am Post subject:

No, it's just better to wait. It's a fact we're going to see other Tailed Beasts in combat so it's better to wait. It would be nonsense to guess now, and re-do it later. Time is a precious treasure.

If you want Bijuu, you can do it yourself just by spinning-off the ones we already have.
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horngeek · Genin Joined: 21 Jun 2009 Posts: 12

Other Bijuu in combat, yes. But we don't know if we're going to see them sealed into other hosts, or if they're just going to be controlled by Madara and Sasuke's Sharingans (I'd say spoiler alert, but with what's being discussed, that's kinda obvious Razz

). Of course, I think that we're going to see them soon, probably before Frankto's next update on the Main File, so this is probably a moot point anyway.

Frankto · Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:09 am Post subject:

More minor changes posted.

I need to make a Samurai class, or something. I realize now from making a half gazillion NPCs that I need a Samurai class. For when sneaking around isn't necessary.

Tomorrow will be more work on Taijutsu overhaul. Getting this update out of the way will be good.
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Felix_Zyphros · Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:17 am Post subject:

Samurai- Strong/Weapon Specialist with maybe Undying throw in. Of course, you could always make a PrC that mixes those two.

For Samurai, how about different weapons styles that only they can use?
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Chaos4knuckles · Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:52 pm Post subject:

I would disagree, maybe they get a bonus to kenjutsu's
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Frankto · Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:31 pm Post subject:

As a note, I already have my own idea of what the Samurai class does, I mainly posted that here because I was tired and thought I'd need a reminder, which I didn't. And Chaos, don't be so... limited. ;p
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Felix_Zyphros · Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:40 pm Post subject:

Samurai weren't just trained in the katana. Infact, they started out as horse archers, more like the mongol archers than anything.

Maybe this will be a good chance to get some bow-jutsu in the main file? Or maybe a small "supplement" file that has samurai stuff in it >.>
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Frankto · Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:59 pm Post subject:

Probably not.

Also, rinnegan is the new shikotsumyaku.
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Chaos4knuckles · Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:10 pm Post subject:

so, is that a sign it will be let out, but the bloodline is technically all dead, or it just uber pwns...
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Frankto · Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:21 pm Post subject:

Don't fret. If you lose an eye, now we know what happens.

And hey, you can get them back now. Plus bloodline. New treat injury skill use.
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Felix_Zyphros · Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:27 pm Post subject:

Does this mean I can have a mibu red eye and a sharingan?
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Frankto · Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:34 pm Post subject:

You can. Only since you can't implant Red Eyes, as it isn't a Doujutsu, it means you already had it.

It also means that the Sharingan won't work, as your body rejects it, and you suffer Constitution damage until the eye is taken out or destroyed.
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Frankto · Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:34 pm Post subject:

You can. Only since you can't implant Red Eyes, as it isn't a Doujutsu, it means you already had it.

It also means that the Sharingan won't work, as your body rejects it, and you suffer Constitution damage until the eye is taken out or destroyed. Or until you die.

Your pick.
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SirShadow · Biffu Aroi Joined: 10 May 2009 Posts: 2654

<_< hrm, wouldn't you have to kill the sharingan (or whatever) while it was activated and then it would cause constant chakra drain unless you had some sort of inhibitor covering it. there goes your depth perception.

>_> Also, the idea of torturing someone by implanting an eye and watching their chakra slowly dwindle to nothing seems like an interesting way to get information out of someone...

Frankto · Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:55 pm Post subject:

There's already an inhibitor I added with the eye stuff. And that isn't much of a torture if they can escape with the eye.
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With certain precautions, that's a pretty big if.

Frankto · Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:27 pm Post subject:

The Elite Shinobi Swordsman is now the Shinobi Swordsman
The Undying Shinobi is now the Shinobi Bodyguard.

Samurai class is still pending.
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Frankto · Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:22 am Post subject:

Added Shinobi Adept class, to serve as a filler between level 3 and level 6 for Elementalist and Genjutsu master.

Samurai class still pending.
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Shun · Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:56 am Post subject:

I always thought the weapon master class filled it in fine.. but I'm sure a class can always make it more specialized.
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Frankto · Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:18 pm Post subject:

The point is to make it an advanced class, not a prestige class.
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Whitefire · First Mate! Arr! Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 435

Well samurai class sounds cool, even though i don't remember what an advanced class is or a prestige class.
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Frankto · Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:25 pm Post subject:

A prestige class is something selected at 7th level or higher. An advanced class is selected after 4th level.
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