Star Wars: Saga Edition

Frankto · Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:45 am Post subject: Star Wars: Saga Edition

...Well, this has been a strange night. I can't say I'm truly proficient in the mess that is Star Wars: Saga Edition, and actually didn't know all that much about the rules until tonight.

So obviously, I did what I do and made rules for epic level gameplay for the system. Because, quite justifiably (?), that seemed like the next logical step (?).

Anyone have any experience with the Saga Edition system? Any campaign make it to high level gameplay?
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SirShadow · Biffu Aroi Joined: 10 May 2009 Posts: 2654

I have some experience with Saga Edition, but we never made it to high levels.

Infinitus · Holiday Ninja Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 1976

why would you need epic levels? Because you want to level more after level 20?

Capping at 20 seems like a good idea to keep things as balanced as possible.
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Frankto · Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:26 pm Post subject:

I'm not even going to dignify that with an answer.
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Infinitus · Holiday Ninja Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 1976

Oh well... I see were that is going, you are not going to listen anyways, but here is my two cents, as I have been GM'ing for a long time.

I thought always epic levels were missing, but seeing the cap as capping abilities to something that is still possible as a human and keeping stuff sane, it was suddenly alright, that was about a year ago, well more like two years ago in less than 2 months.

If you go too high with levels, beyond 20 that is, your abilities become too powerful, and you can pull stuff that is on Mass Effect 2 Zaheed niveau [read: destroying the death star solo] without needing to get lucky rolls.
Objects are not scaled to levels higher than 20, epic levels destroy the balance. WHAT that bounty hunter survived a torpedo hit?

Really... some things should remain impossible.

Epic levels in that game feels as the most useless thing you can add there. But go ahead, it is not that I hadn't discarded that idea earlier. You will come like other stuff in some years to the same conclusion, if you are keep playing that is.
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Redfire085 · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:03 pm Post subject:

best i can offer is the Dawn of Defiance campaign that wizards made themselves, it takes a party from lvls 1 to 20 throughout 10 books(i've got the pdfs) you could always build up from there(it takes place 3 months after revenge of the sith to a point of your choosing, before a new hope)

Redfire085 · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:10 pm Post subject:

although, fair warning, my particular group has the attention span of a gnat so we only ever got up to the third book(much to my annoyance, being a star wars fan wanting to see it through) and sorry for double post

Elon · Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:48 am Post subject:

Wait, WHAT? I have almost every star wars d20 book, bought from my local shop.

And there's another d20 star wars? Those news never got here O_O
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Redfire085 · Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:50 am Post subject:

if you're referring to the pdfs i got, it was a wizards site release only(they finished before they discontinued saga edition)

Elon · Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:48 pm Post subject:

No, I was refering to the whol 'Saga' thing. I didn't know anything about it, my local shop didn't know anything either. I'll google and see what's that.
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Shun · Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:08 pm Post subject:

You serious? There was talk about it atlest a year before it came out but I do understand your region gets things late or not at all. I can safely say it's atleast 3-4 years old.
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Redfire085 · Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:35 pm Post subject:

i have to agree with shun, that is quite odd(i can say i've had all my saga books for roughly 3-5 years)

Frankto · Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:42 pm Post subject:

Hey, hey, hey, guys. Some of you may not know this, but I'm a writer.

How about we take talk of pirating books off my fucking forums? Fantastic!

I'm all for embracing the internet, the new culture, the next generation of media, and all that, but on the other hand? Show some goddamn respect. Thanks!
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Shun · Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:50 pm Post subject:

I didn't see anything about pirating, the Dawn of Defiance campaign was released by WOTC as a "get to know Saga" thing.
Edit: It was however removed sometime ago.
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Frankto · Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:54 pm Post subject:

I'm sure the guilty parties are aware of their misdeeds and won't repeat them.
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Redfire085 · Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:20 pm Post subject:

on my honor frankto, i swear that these pdfs of the dawn of defiance were indeed dled for free off the WOTC website

Infinitus · Holiday Ninja Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 1976

you'd position saga edition between dnd 3.5 and 4.0;
it uses the skill system, which it does rather well and a dynamic class system which is neat. I prefer that class system to the old and new dnd classes.

in most aspects it is like dnd 4.0.
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Shun · Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 4:47 am Post subject:

If you like 4th D&D and the Star Wars genre, you should enjoy it. It combines all the normally "complex" actions into simple (but fun) format.

Unlike D&D and Star Wars d20 there's not that many class options, but there is a nice variety of talents.
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ZeronosVega · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:02 pm Post subject:

A little late of a post, but relevant none-the-less:

I have some experience with the system. I was involved in a campaign a few years ago which was rather enjoyable. I had a knack for using vehicles as battering rams. Not always a tactic favored by the rest of the party, but it was fun and we still laugh about it to this day.

That particular campaign only got to around level 10 before it stopped. Another campaign would be played and I would jump in a few sessions later for a single session, due to not having the time every Sunday to participate.

I very much enjoy the system, although I wouldn't particularly care to run such a campaign, due to not being as knowledgeable enough about the Star Wars universe as our usual GM. Epic Rules could be pretty fun to use, since not every campaign plays out like KoTOR/II, where you're given an ass-load of bonuses for various reasons, making up for not having epic levels (or in the case of KoTOR, you just get ridiculously over-powered on top of having 30 levels).

A bit off topic but is anyone here planning on playing Star Wars: The Old Republic at some point?
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Frankto · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:06 pm Post subject:

I've been invited to the beta. That game kicks my computer in the balls so hard it's freezes almost completely.
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Athildur · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:38 pm Post subject:

I might consider it, IF I can play a beta or trial first. I'm really not interested in it if the game's gonna be another generic MMO. (This is my standard view on ANY new mmo, really)
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Jensik · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:49 pm Post subject:

I'm currently in the Beta and all I really have to say is UNF

(Keep in mind I'm a huge Star Wars nerd, so my opinion is likely very biased.)
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