[Playwright's Primer] Feedback

Frankto · Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:17 pm Post subject: [Playwright's Primer] Feedback

Let me know what you think could be improved, or just what you thought about the supplement.
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SirShadow · Biffu Aroi Joined: 10 May 2009 Posts: 2654

For Technique Preservation, wouldn't it make more sense for it to be when a human puppet is animated with HD equal to or greater than the base creature instead of the puppeteer's class level?

Other than that it all looks pretty good. I see some things I'd like to use and others that I'm not so interested in but others might be.

Frankto · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:12 pm Post subject:

Better this way. Wouldn't be very good for high level creatures. What didn't you like?
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kakuro · Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:58 am Post subject:

I'm curious about the fact that an S-class technique(Chakramane) is required to learn a B-class training method as well as what necessitated the change from Kugutsu no justu to Chakra no Ito in the first place.

I was disappointed by the lack of more offensive techniques but Last Act and Commanding Performance were pretty interesting well as Good Review. I can't wait to use them in Shadow's campaign .

The Components were incredibly cool to look through and more then a few will supplement some of the home brews I have. But I also had the feeling that some would have been better off as updates in the main file. I was also extremely disappointed that the suggestion for special building materials to craft the puppets from wasn't followed as that would have been incredibly cool.

all in all it was definitely worth getting even if it didn't quite live up to my brain's hype.

I can't wait to take levels in Living Puppeteer
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Reznor · Kage Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 235

I searched and didn't find it. What page is Chakra no Ito on?

Frankto · Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:57 pm Post subject:

-_-

You know that zip file? Yeah, there are two files in there. One includes the chakra threads technique and the updated, and the other the Playwright's Primer.

That file is helpfully called Playwright's Primer - Updated Puppeteer.pdf.
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Reznor · Kage Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 235

Thanks. And speaking of which, "Greater Focus" references Kugutsu no Jutsu.

Frankto · Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:58 pm Post subject:

Noted and fixed, thanks.
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Dairius_Chi · Situationally Useful Joined: 02 Jun 2010 Posts: 2633

Just so I know I'm getting this right, Chakra no ito: The chakra cost is on top of normal animation costs for puppetry, yes? And, if I detach the threads from an object willingly, not severed, can that same thread be used for something else?

Chakra no Ito also has a duration of "Until Cancelled", I know there is of course the GM limit involved, but is there really no issue aside from that to stop someone from using them for hours, or even all day?

Example: Make 3 C-class threads in the morning, have them 'idle' until needed, would this work?

Another question on that is: Does something being held by the chakra strings count toward the user's encumbrance? I know animated puppets don't but, dead weight like...lifting rubble, or moving a fallen tree.

Just so I'm sure, is the only benefit of putting more then one string on a single object/puppet that it becomes harder to sever completely?

Aside from this, actual feedback: The new material here is interesting, makes multiclassing a puppeteer more plausible since the max HD is based on character level, not class level.

The components were...interesting, a few of them being sealed items was a bit confusing, does that mean to craft one it would involve 2 crafters, or one person with both crafting feats? Not sure how collaberated crafting processes go. I did like the appearance of more 'add-on' components, that take no slots but augment abilities of existing components, but honestly...there isn't a whole lot here I'd use outside of somewhat specific builds, and more for fluff then anything, Armored Frame being a major exception.

Techniques: I would have liked more offensive choices but, after looking over what's been seen...very little would require a technique rather than cinematic use of weapon components. ASide from that, lot of utility and possibility I see here, defnitely a few interesting ones, but most of them I'd want to learn just to have it in case it ever came up, but perhaps don't see common use otherwise.

Frankto · Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:31 pm Post subject:

This question has been answered before. Yes, the costs are separate. There is nothing that stops you from letting chakra threads idle currently except common sense. There is a very specific section that explains how archetype components are crafted. I strongly advise you read it.

Considering chakra threads increase your own effective strength for carrying, it's a safe bet to assume that they do, yes.

Personally, I'm more than a little bit baffled that no one's said a thing about the new puppet cores, specifically the modern cores.
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Dairius_Chi · Situationally Useful Joined: 02 Jun 2010 Posts: 2633

I do like how the modern section looks, and the motorcycle/light tank puppets? They're transformers...why would you not love them?

I like the quadruped and tauric cores, more options and...I can see a quadruped puppet working very nicely, mounted puppet...would that require a concentration check to keep the puppet from deanimating due to its own movements? Hm...

Also: Tauric puppet with locking gauntlets, Centaur...I'd give one a larger sized greatbow.

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Spiked Armor Plating, would it's damage increase with effects that allow the puppet to grapple as if larger? Such as: Vise Grip, or Sea of Open Hands?

EDIT: Don't answer that...that's a stupid question.

Frankto · Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 5:46 pm Post subject:

No.
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AShadowofLife · Genin Joined: 26 Jul 2010 Posts: 3

Rawr. I can't wait to buy this supplement T_T;

Currently don't have the funds on card, rrrr.

ZeronosVega · Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:37 am Post subject:

With Gekisakka Hiken: Iyashii, is this line supposed to mention target instead of puppet?

"The puppet suffers 1d4 points of chakra drain per round until it escapes from the Torso Tank."

Beyond this little mention, I am very much impressed with the book. Some of the techniques and components were ideas right out of my head, I just didn't know how to implement them exactly. I look forward to more updates from this supplement.
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Madara · Genin Joined: 01 May 2011 Posts: 32 Location: Britain

I loved the new components, and the entire class devoted to living puppets (incidentially, the bonus chara table for Living Puppeteer goes up to 10th level, not 7th).

Being able to make a puppet with a bloodline will be great, I wonder where i can find a few Kaguya...
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xslayerdude · Genin Joined: 05 Apr 2009 Posts: 43 Location: Home

Hey Frankto, thanks for the supplement, I love the components and techniques. Honestly, my one problem with the supplement was the characters. When it said 'two characters' I was hoping/thinking it would be Sasori and Kankuro, since you left them out of the main file, and they are two awesome characters. I really expected them in there, and I think putting them in would make it perfect.
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Jensik · Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:35 am Post subject:

Sasori and Kankuro are characters under copywrite, and thus can only be included in free material, not paid supplements.
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Frankto · Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:03 am Post subject:

Yes, I think a copyright lawsuit would just make this supplement great. O_o
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SirShadow · Biffu Aroi Joined: 10 May 2009 Posts: 2654

lawsuits for everyone! c'mon Frankto, they're loads of fun. Trust me. -__-;

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Frankto · Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:15 pm Post subject:

More love for puppets. Now with epic components.
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ZeronosVega · Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:36 pm Post subject:

Bitchin'. I look forward to checking them out.
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Frankto · Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:46 pm Post subject:

For those of you who downloaded before I pushed the second updated version:

The Flawless Servos have a difficulty requirement of S-class.
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samilecarrion · Genin Joined: 11 Feb 2012 Posts: 2

For some reason when my email code takes me to the playwrites primer it doesn't give me the puppeteer update pdf with the book.

Frankto · Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:56 am Post subject:

That's because that was implemented in the main file nearly three years ago.
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kakuro · Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:43 pm Post subject:

whenever I try to re-download the playwright primer, all I get is the original file. relic repository seems to have updated properly but not this one.
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samilecarrion · Genin Joined: 11 Feb 2012 Posts: 2

sorry I guess I didn't explain it right. I thought that was the part of the update I was missing. But I every time I download the playwrites primer it doesn't have the update stuff.