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Genjutsu: When does it get good?

 
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undertow92182
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:33 am    Post subject: Genjutsu: When does it get good? Reply with quote

Hello all,

I've been looking over Genjutsus and they look like they get pretty cool. However, when lower level it looks like the various techniques are pretty lacking. So, I am curious, what do you all think is the level where Genjutsus turn the bend and start getting really strong? Do you have a favorite technique? Do you think Genjutsu is useless?

All opinions welcome! I just think this is a fun topic to discuss.
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Dominic1808
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it depends, genjutsu masters are staying away from combat types. But for when it gets good I say maybe around level 6? When you are able to start to take the Genjutsu Path. (Now I'm gonna give you, in my opinion, the best way to build a genjutsu user)

Start making your Cha 18 (or your highest roll), this will give you a +4 to Genjutsu save DC

One of your starting feats should be Genius Ninja (+2 to learn and can learn techniques 1 level higher than they are)

Then, charismatic hero 6 (Take Genjutsu, Improved Genjutsu, and Advanced Genjutsu; giving you a boost of +3 to perform, +2 to learn, and +1 to genjutsu skill)

Take Feats- Genjutsu Adept (+2 to genjutsu checks, +1 to genjutsu DC), Genin (Genjutsu, Gives +1 to it), the last one whatever

Take the Genjutsu Proficiency Ability from genjutsu master (gives a +2 to peform, and a +1 to the skill)

Put max ranks into Genjutsu (9)

Your end total is
A total Skill bonus of 18
Giving you a +23 to perform
You can perform a rank 7 genjutsu
A rank 7 Genjutsu's DC is 21
And the DC is a will save and because Cha is a universal dump stat not many players will have a high Will stat
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cmkawasaki
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wisdom stat is a dump stat, otherwise I agree with you. Wisdom determines will saves.
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Dominic1808
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forgot the will was wisdom not cha
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SirShadow
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd never take Charismatic hero to 6. Charismatic 3 into Shinobi Adept into Genjutsu Master is ideal. The Genin/Chunin/Jounin feats are only good as bonus feats given by the DM or if you really feel the need to have sense/suppress chakra.

As far as to when Genjutsu specialists become good? I'd say level 3. Taibakudo is a strong technique
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